Read reviews on Fullmetal Alchemist: The Conqueror of Shamballa on Crunchyroll. Amestris is a unitary state under the rule of a parliamentary republic, run by state alchemists that serve the king utilizing the mystifying arts of alchemy. Posted by Divine on May 9, 2010 May 9, ... writers have noticed how much their huge fanbase like to speculate and theorise so they puposely leave some unimportant plot holes as MYSTERY is theme of the show. As such they wouldn’t not be able to use alchemy to fix havocs spine, as no one is allowed to practice human alchemy. The movie is a direct follow-up of the series and gives resolution to many of the conflicts that remained at the end of the show. Why does a soul need an intact nervous system to move a human body, but it doesn't need one to move a suit of armor? While they both start the same way, the first one starts to develop following a whole different path than the Manga. by eternal on March 31, 2010. Ignoring the fact that you you find the “magic” “unscientific”, even though science is the whole backbone of alchemy, it’s not a plot hole by any means. Yes they could use a philosophers stone heal him, but as far as anyone is concerned, the stones are a myth. However, the author planned to reveal Scar's name before the manga finishes (in the "extras" at the end of volume 15, Arakawa states she has a name for Scar, but it's a secret). Tommy-Vercetti 21:32, September 5, 2010 (UTC). In the first anime, Scar died without his name ever being revealed. ... Brotherhood feels more like the anime equivalent of the suspense novel: whatever plot holes and inconsistencies turn up are insignificant in the face of the excitement promised by the next chapter. The alchemist did not look happy, and House noticed a rather strange look on Roy's face. We don't know if there isn't magic to get someone walking again if they become paralyzed, but I'd guess there is and it's either complex or the cost is too great. Follow. When faced with a mistake returned, what else can … After five long years of imprisonment, bad singing, dead cats, poor humor, out of character-ness, weird songs, psycho fans, weird plot holes, and countless Big Lipped Alligator Moments—they were free. This is because when it was being aired, the Manga was not done yet, so the plot as well as the end of the anime are invented. I may have to bring in OCs because there's no plot holes in this story line! Backstory first: I watched this before Brotherhood, and never touched the manga. Also there is FMA:B which kind of obscures this series in its' shadow. It's more gory then FMA that funimation had to rate it rated R instead of PG-13 (which is what the original Fullmetal Alchemist rating is.) I haven't seen this brought up in any other discussions of plot holes in FMA 2003, so it's possible I missed something here. This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject. As for how Al’s souls can operate the suit of armor, that’s information Ed had to learn from seeing “the truth”, which is basically like having a conversation with god. Nov 1, 2017 Plot and Pacing in Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood. Click here to start a new topic. Am I the only one who sees all the plot holes in the failure of an anime called Fullmetal Alchemist (2003)? She can become ALL water, now equivalent exchange means that shouldn't be possible. 19, there's so many things that have been revealed. - Better ending. Alchemy itself is a fusion of scientific principles and magical properties all based around one basic concept, The Law of Equivalent Exchange. But this will be a long one XD The plot of each series is completely different, except for the basics - that is the brothers tried to transmute their … As in other case, FMA has the benefit of being a completed manga with relatively few plot holes meanwhile OP is still ongoing and IMO not necessarily in it's best moment, however popular it might be. Fullmetal Alchemist the Movie: Conqueror of Shamballa is a 2005 Japanese anime based on the Fullmetal Alchemist series and manga. His name was never revealed. Alchemists are knowledgeable and naturally talented individuals who can manipulate and modify matter due to their art. (Topic ID: 1740369) So plot holes as far as the eye can see. In the manga and Brotherhood, however, she suffers a fiery death at the hands of Roy Mustang and dies without any redemption. Come with me." Now, let me answer you all about FMA. Jean Havoc gets his spine severed by Lust and ends up in a wheelchair. In the 2003 version of FMA, Lust is killed off by Wrath for siding with the Elric brothers and dies a redeemed Homunculus. Probably the most well-known antagonists of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood are the seven Homunculi. Maybe it's because human bodies work differently from suits of armor. I've also heard Brotherhood is better, so should I drop FMA and go straight to watching Brotherhood, or is it worth watching FMA first? So, I'm currently on episode 12 of Fullmetal Alchemist and I decided to look into Brotherhood a little bit. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A place to discuss Plotholes, Continuity errors or even unexplained events for Movies, Books, Games, or anything else you can think of, Press J to jump to the feed. I know I'm essentially complaining that this universe's magic is unscientific, but this is an inconsistency and it always bugged me. Like, a suit of armor doesn't require a spine to stand but a human body can't walk without a spine. Join the online community, create your anime and manga list, read reviews, explore the forums, follow news, and so much more! Despite battles being relatively scarce in Full Metal Alchemist vol. on MyAnimeList, and join in the discussion on the largest online anime and manga database in the world! Take Greed for example, he had the power to change the carbon in his body into a powerful armor that covered his body and not change his full body to a carbon stone. Fullmetal Alchemist Wiki is a FANDOM Anime Community. - Better Wrath/Greed/Pride. If your question is "could Havoc's soul been re-attached to his body via alchemy and then not needed his wheelchair", the answer is yes. FMA has a serious plot that makes sense and Alchemy is a mixture of science and magic while Fairy tail has a lot of mini arcs where good guys win thanks to plot hole. Such expositions (which are never boring!) Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood (Fantasy/Shounen, 38 Episodes, 2011) Legend of the Galactic Heroes (Military/Sci-Fi, 110 EPisodes, 1988-97) Lupin the Third: The Woman Named Fujiko Mine (VERY NSFW, Crime, 13 Episodes, 2012) earth-grrls-are-easy . This story takes place soon after Ed and Al's first meeting with the homunculi. Fullmetal Alchemist is an anime series adapted from the manga of the same title by Hiromu Arakawa. Roy Mustang, also known as the Flame Alchemist, is the tritagonist of the Fullmetal Alchemist series. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Genshin Impact: The 10 Biggest Plot Holes In The Game. Read reviews on the manga Fullmetal Alchemist on MyAnimeList, the internet's largest manga database. This law states that to gain something of value, something of equal value must be lost. This universe was a completely fresh experience for me. ; This is not a forum for general discussion about the article's subject. Munich, 1923: Two years have passed since Ed was ripped away from his world. Then there are the problems with her powers. The plot holes here are either a) Hannibal or another FBI member / consultant must be the copycat, so why doesn't Will / another investigator easily figure this out; or b) details of the murder were publically leaked which the show completely neglects to mention. - Mustang and Hawkeye are way better, more rounded characters. At about episode 44-45, plot holes big enough for Al in his armored form to walk through began to emerge... And then the whole basis of the show's plot was just conjured up and dropped in the viewers' laps in the second to last half-hour. What surprised me was that apparently Brotherhood isn't a sequel (like I thought it was), but a remake I guess? This suggests that, as with the real world, you need a nervous system to move around. The show makes it clear Ed made a great sacrifice for that magic to work. ; Put new text under old text. That level of depth was, sadly, missing from Brotherhood, and that's why the original FMA is an excellent series in its own right, plot-holes, lackluster ending, and … Ed got to his feet and nearly lost his balance as he followed House out of the room. Except Armstrong. Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (2009 anime), Fullmetal Alchemist: Conqueror of Shamballa (2005), Fullmetal Alchemist: Sacred Star of Milos (2011), https://fma.fandom.com/wiki/Talk:Fullmetal_Alchemist_(2003_anime)_Plot_Holes?oldid=21149. - Less plot holes, like the Homunculi's sin names. It might be nitpicky. You did — during Hohenheim's conversation with Dante, he mentions that he left her fragments of the Philosopher's Stone, and assumes that she must have used them up by now. My personal recommendation is to watch the first twenty five episodes of FMA, then begin on episode 11 of FMA: Brotherhood. Read the topic about fullmetal alchemist Brotherhood plot hole? - Better fight scenes (Mustang v. Lust/Envy) are amazing. This itself is bas… Essentially that means that in alchemy, and in life, an alchemist cannot create something without losing something in return. "We have a room ready for you. Nobody ever found him again. Fandoms: Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood & Manga, Fullmetal Alchemist - All Media Types, Fullmetal Alchemist (Anime 2003) Mature Graphic Depictions Of Violence, Major Character Death Yet when a soul is attached to a suit of armor, the soul can move the entire suit despite the suit obviously not having a nervous system. So they frolicked into the sun and lived happily ever after. According to this:. He shrugged it off and gestured to Ed. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Set in a fictional universe in which alchemy is one of the most advanced scientific techniques, the story follows two alchemist brothers named Edward and Alphonse Elric, who want to recover parts of their bodies lost in an attempt to bring their mother back to life through alchemy. This talk page is for discussing improvements to Fullmetal Alchemist (2003 anime) Plot Holes. Sign and date your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~) or the signature button. I watched FullMetal Alchemist Brotherhood first, and then I watched FullMetal Alchemist. Simply put, a Homunculus (singular of Homunculi) is an artificially created human being, brought to life by the power of alchemy. The conclusion is good and satisfying though, even if it leaves some large plot holes and unanswered questions (thankfully answered in the wrap up movie Conqueror of Shamballa). but that doesn't make a bit of difference in my mind. Human transmutation is strictly forbidden, and whoever attempts it … The TV series' idea about what that Gate was supposed to be was really kind of stupid. - The plot. Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is more gory. Yet despite the wide range of possibilities, alchemy is not as all-powerful as most would believe. But it's not necessarily an inconsistency. Welp. While "Conqueror of Shamballa" is spun off of the 2003 series (and serving as its official ending), this movie is spun off of the 2010 series and is an original story, taking place somewhere near the halfway point of the show's run. To be honest, I would go the way I went because - 1. Both the anime(s) and manga state that human related alchemy is off limits to everyone. ed was only able to do that magic because of whos son he was. Full Metal Alchemist; Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood. Ed traded his first limb trying to bring back his mother and traded his second limb binding his brother's soul to the armor. I love the reasoning for this article, and it's sure to fill countless pages of information too, but I don't think CK will find it very relevant, and even in my mind, it's just a bit of a novelty. Here it is, my Fullmetal Alchemist fanfiction!! People can say "Brotherhood is the REAL story, so it's better!" Unfollow. Fullmetal Alchemist takes place in the fictional country of Amestris which is heavily based on the Industrial Revolution. "Fullmetal Alchemist: The Sacred Star of Milos" (pronounced Mē-lŏss) is the second feature film in the franchise. There are a lot of differences between the two, there are also a few similarities. In this world, science has essentially taken the form of alchemy. Anyway.. Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood – 56. Genshin Impact is an awesome game, but that doesn't mean it's completely without its plot holes. Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood: The Symbolic and Ironic Deaths of the Homunculi. 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